Comments on: The Rapture of the Saints http://christreport.com/2009/09/the-rapture-of-the-saints/ Mon, 26 Dec 2011 00:41:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: thelma http://christreport.com/2009/09/the-rapture-of-the-saints/comment-page-1/#comment-778 thelma Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:14:32 +0000 http://christreport.com/09/08/2009/commentary/jack-heckathorne/16945/#comment-778 so come quickly Lord Jesus... so come quickly Lord Jesus…

]]> By: thelma http://christreport.com/2009/09/the-rapture-of-the-saints/comment-page-1/#comment-777 thelma Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:13:18 +0000 http://christreport.com/09/08/2009/commentary/jack-heckathorne/16945/#comment-777 LOOKING FORWARD FOR THE COMING OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.... " ..for he who has promised to come will come and will not tarry...." Jesus is coming. Jesus is coming. Praise God he is coming fro me and those who are looking for Him to come Heb. 9: 27 -29 "... and unto them who look for Him shall He appear..." LOOKING FORWARD FOR THE COMING OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST…. " ..for he who has promised to come will come and will not tarry…." Jesus is coming. Jesus is coming. Praise God he is coming fro me and those who are looking for Him to come Heb. 9: 27 -29 "… and unto them who look for Him shall He appear…"

]]> By: J Heckathorne http://christreport.com/2009/09/the-rapture-of-the-saints/comment-page-1/#comment-758 J Heckathorne Sat, 17 Jul 2010 21:47:38 +0000 http://christreport.com/09/08/2009/commentary/jack-heckathorne/16945/#comment-758 First of all you seem to be saying that the just and unjust are merely good and bad Christians. The “Just” in 1 Peter 3:18 is Jesus Christ and He died and suffered for the “unjust” human race. The just are all believers, Jew or Gentile, and the unjust are unbelievers. For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just (Christ) for the unjust, (unbelievers) that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened (human spirit made alive) by the Spirit: “For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not. Ecc 7:20 So, all believers are made “Just” or “righteous” once they accept Christ. The just are all believers, Jew or Gentile, and the unjust are unbelievers. “Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:” Romans 5:1 (The writer was a Jew and he was writing to Jew’s) In Matthew 7:21-23 we see Jesus telling some people who were obviously spirit filled Christians to go away, that He never knew them. Your verse Matt 7:21-23 refers to people who are trying to be saved by their works. If you never knew Jesus, as in a personal relationship, you are not saved no matter what you do. Once you are saved you become a child of God and receive His righteousness. This has nothing to do with the filling of the Holy Spirit but rather the Indwelling Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit does not indwell persons who try to be saved by their own merit or works. The filling of the Holy Spirit is a temporary condition, for believers only, based on sin and confession of sin. (1 Jn1:9) All Christians will be in the Millennial reign because all believers are Justified at the moment of salvation. Compare these verses. “Blessed are they that do his commandments, (true faith) that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” Revelation 21:8 Have you ever told a lie? This would put you in this “Lake of Fire” category wouldn’t it? It would but you have been made Just by Faith alone. Many Christians who think they are “Spirit Filled” are not because they fail to utilize 1 John 1:9. These people who are “without the city” in this context are unsaved. These are the Christians that came out of Outer Darkness, where they spent the Millennial Reign, being purified by fire since they did not purify themselves prior to the rapture. All Christians are purified at Salvation. “Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: ! Peter 1:22 Where do you find that Christians “come out” of the outer darkness? This is not scriptural, it is assumed. A person is purified when he accepts Christ and his works are judged in Heaven. Christians are all taken in the rapture and the souls of those who return with Christ will all be given resurrected bodies at the Rapture and will return with Christ to Heaven. During the seven year tribulation there will be an evaluation judgment of all Christians works. Good works will be rewarded and all others will be burned but everyone is saved and all are children of God and will return to Establish God’s Kingdom on Earth. The Kingdom means “The King’s domain” and in scripture it refers to “The Kings authority” Neither the domain or the outer darkness are actually physical places but rather an analogy of opposite positions. In other words, some will be called great in the kingdom of heaven and some will be called the least. “Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” Matt 5:19 “The Least in the Kingdom” people might get to Heaven and kick themselves because they will be assigned to some unimportant task during the Millennium and throughout all of eternity when they see what they could have been had they learned and applied God’s word throughout their lives but they will never be in the “outer darkness” from which there is no return. JH First of all you seem to be saying that the just and unjust are merely good and bad Christians. The “Just” in 1 Peter 3:18 is Jesus Christ and He died and suffered for the “unjust” human race. The just are all believers, Jew or Gentile, and the unjust are unbelievers.

For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just (Christ) for the unjust, (unbelievers) that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened (human spirit made alive) by the Spirit:

“For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not. Ecc 7:20

So, all believers are made “Just” or “righteous” once they accept Christ. The just are all believers, Jew or Gentile, and the unjust are unbelievers.

“Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:” Romans 5:1 (The writer was a Jew and he was writing to Jew’s)

In Matthew 7:21-23 we see Jesus telling some people who were obviously spirit filled Christians to go away, that He never knew them.

Your verse Matt 7:21-23 refers to people who are trying to be saved by their works. If you never knew Jesus, as in a personal relationship, you are not saved no matter what you do. Once you are saved you become a child of God and receive His righteousness. This has nothing to do with the filling of the Holy Spirit but rather the Indwelling Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit does not indwell persons who try to be saved by their own merit or works. The filling of the Holy Spirit is a temporary condition, for believers only, based on sin and confession of sin. (1 Jn1:9)

All Christians will be in the Millennial reign because all believers are Justified at the moment of salvation. Compare these verses.

“Blessed are they that do his commandments, (true faith) that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.”

“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” Revelation 21:8

Have you ever told a lie? This would put you in this “Lake of Fire” category wouldn’t it? It would but you have been made Just by Faith alone. Many Christians who think they are “Spirit Filled” are not because they fail to utilize 1 John 1:9.

These people who are “without the city” in this context are unsaved.

These are the Christians that came out of Outer Darkness, where they spent the Millennial Reign, being purified by fire since they did not purify themselves prior to the rapture.

All Christians are purified at Salvation.

“Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: ! Peter 1:22

Where do you find that Christians “come out” of the outer darkness? This is not scriptural, it is assumed. A person is purified when he accepts Christ and his works are judged in Heaven. Christians are all taken in the rapture and the souls of those who return with Christ will all be given resurrected bodies at the Rapture and will return with Christ to Heaven. During the seven year tribulation there will be an evaluation judgment of all Christians works. Good works will be rewarded and all others will be burned but everyone is saved and all are children of God and will return to Establish God’s Kingdom on Earth.

The Kingdom means “The King’s domain” and in scripture it refers to “The Kings authority” Neither the domain or the outer darkness are actually physical places but rather an analogy of opposite positions. In other words, some will be called great in the kingdom of heaven and some will be called the least.

“Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” Matt 5:19

“The Least in the Kingdom” people might get to Heaven and kick themselves because they will be assigned to some unimportant task during the Millennium and throughout all of eternity when they see what they could have been had they learned and applied God’s word throughout their lives but they will never be in the “outer darkness” from which there is no return.

JH

]]> By: Linda Smith http://christreport.com/2009/09/the-rapture-of-the-saints/comment-page-1/#comment-139 Linda Smith Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:34:33 +0000 http://christreport.com/09/08/2009/commentary/jack-heckathorne/16945/#comment-139 A very exciting read but you missed a very salient point for Christians. We have been taught false doctrine concerning what happens after the rapture. Just like the body of Eve was taken OUT of the body of Adam, the bride of Christ will be taken OUT of the body of Christ. This is proven throughout the NT if one studies to show themselves approved before God and does not allow false tenets of past Christianity to lead them astray. Here are a few scriptures to help you see this if you're interested. There is going to be a place distinctly called Outer Darkness where those who have not been faithful to the end will go for the Millennial Reign. This is set aside for born again believers only as the Jews will have the two resurrections, that of the unjust and that of the just. In Matthew 7:21-23 we see Jesus telling some people who were obviously spirit filled Christians to go away, that He never knew them. In Matthew 22:1-14 is the famous record of God and His Son and how Israel rejected him so God invited others to the wedding feast. The one that came in without wedding clothing is someone not in white linen, which is the clothing, according to the scriptures of those who endured to the end and were successful in their walk as Christian, being obedient to God. If you don’t believe me that all Christians will NOT get into the Millennial Reign, perhaps you should study the last chapter of Rev. verses 14 and 15. This is after the Great White Throne judgment and so we know that these people mentioned have eternal life…and yet they are not permitted into the walled city of New Jerusalem. These are the Christians that came out of Outer Darkness, where they spent the Millennial Reign, being purified by fire since they did not purify themselves prior to the rapture. I know this is not an indepth study but I’ve written it out before and found no one interested. Therefore, if you are interested, or you have questions, feel free to email me. I will be more than happy to write you a much more extensive account with scriptural basis for these truths. God bless. A very exciting read but you missed a very salient point for Christians. We have been taught false doctrine concerning what happens after the rapture. Just like the body of Eve was taken OUT of the body of Adam, the bride of Christ will be taken OUT of the body of Christ. This is proven throughout the NT if one studies to show themselves approved before God and does not allow false tenets of past Christianity to lead them astray. Here are a few scriptures to help you see this if you’re interested.
There is going to be a place distinctly called Outer Darkness where those who have not been faithful to the end will go for the Millennial Reign. This is set aside for born again believers only as the Jews will have the two resurrections, that of the unjust and that of the just. In Matthew 7:21-23 we see Jesus telling some people who were obviously spirit filled Christians to go away, that He never knew them. In Matthew 22:1-14 is the famous record of God and His Son and how Israel rejected him so God invited others to the wedding feast. The one that came in without wedding clothing is someone not in white linen, which is the clothing, according to the scriptures of those who endured to the end and were successful in their walk as Christian, being obedient to God. If you don’t believe me that all Christians will NOT get into the Millennial Reign, perhaps you should study the last chapter of Rev. verses 14 and 15. This is after the Great White Throne judgment and so we know that these people mentioned have eternal life…and yet they are not permitted into the walled city of New Jerusalem. These are the Christians that came out of Outer Darkness, where they spent the Millennial Reign, being purified by fire since they did not purify themselves prior to the rapture. I know this is not an indepth study but I’ve written it out before and found no one interested. Therefore, if you are interested, or you have questions, feel free to email me. I will be more than happy to write you a much more extensive account with scriptural basis for these truths. God bless.

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